To Tuk101: Concerning 45-70. I do not know if you reload or cast. But if you do, you can cast a 300grain(or buy them) bullet. Buy a pound of Trail Boss(fills the case up),or else use 2400 or RL 7,and shoot that bullet out at about 1200 fps. Recoil is light-very light. Accuracy is fantastic. And as long as you do not care about all the charts, and if the deer can not read the charts, this combo is deadly. This is a great Trapdoor load as well.

And if you really want to have some fun. fill that case with 70 grains of 2F Blackpowder, and a wad. Tom.