After I acquire a couple of other guns on my list, (44 mag revolver, Win 94 30-30, muzzleloader) the 45-70 will be next on the list. The only reason that the 45-70 isnt higher on the list is because I am not sure that my surgically repaired shoulder can handle it lol. That is a fine gun for sure and deserves more credit than your balistic crazed buddies where willing to give it before you made that fine shot with it. When a gun makes an entrence hole the size of a quarter it deserves some credit, I dont care how fast the bullet is moving.