Nice try sproul but I ain't buying it. You are trying to tell me that deer aren't "wayback" in any more and that vast mountains won't hold old deer...c'mon. I have hunted these mountains my entire life and can guarantee you that they sure as he!! aren't easily accessible. Sure, I can drive around the tops to the flats but nobody in their right mind is crazy enough to walk the .75 miles through the thickest laurel you ever saw just to reach the brow. Then they have to walk halfway down over just to be able to see enough to hunt it. And unless your a he!! of a swimmer whatever you're lucky enough to shoot has to go back up. Look at my pic as supporting evidence because I tend to back my accusations up with such. Notice that east of 414 there isn't a single road and to walk from 414 to as far right as you can see is at least a days walk. Now if you can honestly look at that pic and tell me a deer can't live to be 6 years old than there sure as heck ain't nothing gonna change your mind. By the way, the area in the blue box is probably a good 12 square miles and hasn't seen a boot in decades. Unless of course one hunter decided to make the 8 hour trek and camp out. Of course he probably shot every 4 year old buck around. I mean he would of had to right? Like you said there is no way deer live to be 6 years old in the state forrests.