I don't know where all least deer came from. All season, I have seen like small bucks and only one real shooter. Now, I see these bucks and I guess they were pushed from other properties. No one has permission to hunt this area (on this side atleast) so it is a gold mine. I am going to try hunting this area from an observation stand tommorrow morning and try and peg them down....if anyone else is around fairfax and wants to try the 2 man drive....pm me