And they only drop aboutthree inches at 150yrdsNot bad for a rimfire.The only draw back is if you got a light cross wind 5mph.or more,Your bullet will be pushed aboutthree tofour inches by the wind to the side at 150yrds. Thats why many like the 22-250 for the heavier bullet all so. But the vitals of a dog isbit larger not much though than three to four inches though.I would keep them to 100yrds or less though with a 17hmr though.