I was in southern Indiana with the wife this weekend so didnt hunt. I stopped today at the Blue Crew Bar in Indy on the way home and watched the first half of the game and left. I pretty much agree with you Pat, although my patience with Dungy is pretty much gone too. Gettin beat is one thing, getting flat out embarassed with no emotion, no heart,no focus, no nothing, is a different story. Only way i want him back is if some major adjustments are made to his scheme with personnel as you were saying.