DB - I'm not advocating it - just throwing out stuff to see what sticks. Just a dig at what I view is the disingenuous claim of most AR advocates that they are QDM when the majority just would like have it easier to take a "quality" (whatever that is) buck. And they want everyone else to follow their methods only - read mandatory.

I'm in southern 7j and 7h and agree with you. There are hunt-able numbers of true mature deer here if that's what you want. To manipulate their their number to obtain a higher percentage would only lower their uniqueness.

I think ANY AND ALL changes need to be done slowly, with great for-thought, a way to review measure impact, and DONE ONLY at a WMU level or lower.

Their is no universal problem in the state - so NO universal changes should be attempted.

Steve