18 posts and i still duno where to hit..i didnt ask if they were good to take or anything..i wouldnt take one if i didnt know i could...im a heck of a shot...ive seen alot of guys targets at the range to tell me so...and impressed alot of old timers and good shots..since i cant figure out this whole neck shot it will be head shots for me when i get a good shot...and if not i will go back to heart and lungers...ivetaken deer on a dead run at 50yds in a thicket and i was stadning free hand...dropped her with one shot to the lungs she fell right out of the air..the reason im looking to find the neck shot is because if my buck would went 20 more yards another hunter would have seen him on his death run(perfect double lunger and shoulder hit...) and would probally dropped him and my first buck would been that guys 30th buck! i wouldnt liked that at all..and wanted to learn the neck shot so if i need it i know it...since i cant figure it out here i will head shoot when i feel i need to...and does when i get the perfect chance...and im shooting 165gr sierra game king hpbts...they act like my dads balistic tips...i love them for close range...i know they will give enough shock...