While its not the exact thing I want, its the better gun and for the price, I cant go wrong. ive spent countless hrs here going through old posts and listening too peoples opinions on muzzleloaders and it seems the muzzleloader of choice is the T/C Omega. My one condition is i wanted a muzzleloader with the thumb hole stock. I was leaning towards the laminated cva kodiak but cabelas has the stainless/composit stock t/c omega on sale with the thumbhole stock for 369 and it comes with a free knife. While I really like the wood/laminate stock better then the composit stock, its not on sale and is really just a look thing and wont change the perfromance of the gun. $369 for a T.C thumbhole stock omega with a 50 dollar knife is a hell of a deal. Im placing my order tonight