I was asking about the area because we usually hunt in the region between Ludlow and Sheffield in the ANF in Warren County. We hunted there on the first day and didn't do too well. With all the ongoing logging, fenced areas, and tornado damage it is darnnear impossible to even get into the woods there. The deer are plentiful but out of reach. One could walk along the road and that's about it. Visibility is next to zero. We walk over an hour on a gated road to reach our traditional stomping ground. We pretty much said our goodbyes to it this year. Second day we hunted the ANF near camp in Elk County, heavily hunted public ground and did very well. A funny side note: the fenced areas now have signs on them saying "hunting permitted" and signs directing hunters to the gates. A human could not even get 20 feet into there, let alone see anything or shoot safely. The deer seek refuge in the fenced areas which is kind of ironic. The deer have been entering those fenced areas since the day they were erected. I saw a whole group of deer leap cleanly over a fence a few years ago and disappear into the thick.