20 FT up 20 yrds out,
You didn’t read it, and you went back and didn't read it again, so I'll post my own words back into this post so that you are able to read what I wrote instead of what you wanted to read and misquote. Be sure to read the last sentence that you must have forgotten to include in your quote;

Quote from page 6 from me (Killer Primate).
Since that time I've killed a number of deer this way, and Passive hunting (which is what most of you are doing) is "easy" by nature, when compared to "active" hunting. Sure passive hunting would be easier to succeed with a gun than with a bow, but from my experience, active hunting with a gun, is much more challenging. In all aspects, whether it be mentally, physically or both. That said, active hunting would also be much more challenging with a bow, but in most cases, it would be impossible.
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What is so hard for you to understand that?

Here is my point - I'm not suggesting that bow hunting is easier than gun hunting, if you want to leave it at that, and no more details added. I think what I wrote is pretty clear about that. What bothers me is that alarge number of "bow only's" make comments like "guns just don't challenge me any more", or "it's just killing", "too easy"with out thinking about thedifferent ways to hunt. I used the words "easier" and "challenging" because those are the words that these same people are using.

Let's look at easier for a moment - Once you've done all your prep work and scent control, and you've parked you butt inyour stand for a long day of sitting on your rear, would it be easier to pick up your shotgun, get down off the stand and go find the buck that you were hopingwas going to walk past your stand? No!It isn't easier, in fact it isa much moredifficult and challenging. That is why it is called"the lost art of running down deer". It isn't my fault that you haven't learned about it.

You want to justify passive hunting as the most challenging just because youchose a short range weapon, but it isn't. You also want to create the scenerio of a bunch of hunters jumping deerall over the place for you to just shoot at. That isn'tpart of the equation. It is about you, and you alone, hunting. We could"what if" this subject to death. Sitting on you butt all day with a bow, isn't easier than stalking a buck to his bed and killing him with a shotgun. I know, I've done it both ways, more than once. And when I was on the ground, where other hunters might be, and where all these jumped deer were, wasn't part ofwhy Ichose my path. I knew where the particular animal liked to bed, and thought I may try tocatch him there and get him. And I've done it, and it isn't easy. And the people who are suggesting that it is easy haven't. Because if they had, they wouldn't be making stupid statements. It isn't my fault that you are stupid,and if you're going to say stupid things in a public place, be readyfor part of the publicto notice and speak up about it.

There are so many posts in this forum about "what camo is best", "scent control", "scent-loc suit", "being still". Try getting out of the tree. Test out your camo, scent control and see how quiet you are. When you're on the ground walking you'd better be a lot better at all of this stuff, especially playing the wind. But tomorrow morning when you think about what I've said, and you decide to keep your butt in the tree, be honest with your self at least, and agree that your chances are best by staying put, and there is good reason for that.

I sit in stands too, even when gun hunting. But there is a big difference for why. I get in the stand during firearms season when I'm tired from all the stalking and real hard work. I'm then ready to take it "easy"!