its over figures we get snow after gun season and we dont have anything in hunted behind my house sat night and a guy wondered on the neighbor's property didnt see me and stood 40 yd from me talked to the guy at dark and he said he had permission but callthe neighbor and he didnt know the guy but now the woods will calm for a week and then its time to for muzzy had the ml out for firearms somaybe a change of season will help gladi shot a couple during bow first year in 10 i haven't had a shot at a deer during gun (besides a little 3 thatbedded20 yd away) but i love late season and hunting in the snow