2 & 4 finger Stan's, Fail Safe thumb! And don't you laugh GregH, For hunting I still use an old HOT SHOT, with a hole drilled through it for a home made wrist strap, got tired of going back down the tree to retreve it like a squirl! Also use a Free Flight for hunting. WVBowhunter when you go to school, you go to a good one, Larry is one of the best!