Pat, the sad part is,some guns are shooters,and some aren't. My wife shoots a Knight Wolverine. It's a low end gun,but they are shooters. I've watched her shoot 3 bullets into the same hole at 100yds. off the bench. I've had some "real bargin" guns,and most were disapointments. On the other hand I've picked up some really nice guns,at pawn shops,dealers,ect, used that were excellent shooters. The NEF muzzle loader,Knight Wolverine,and a few others are proven tack drivers. Look for sales,and buy the best you can afford. It makes all the diffrence in the world! Ron