davidmil...I know what you mean. After I went to begin the search for the buck that I wounded I went to the spot he was standing when I shot him and then looked back to the stand and my heart sunk as I saw many toothpick sized twigs and limbs that were about vital-high on the buck. I will shoot through &quot;holes&quot; also but if I had to do it all again I wouldn't have taken this shot through that junk. I was just giving you chit.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Regardless neither was our fault.<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>