well first of all notre dame lost and ur mad so ur taking it out on me.....nah im just playin with you zdeerslayer and i thank you for mthe comment but see if i lower my dl then my elboe bends too much so i was thinkin about getting a better release and i was also wondering if they sell adjustable ones wheere u might be able to make the release abit shorter cus i have acheapo 15 dollar one and it can compliment my dl.........and oh yeah i was going for notre dame man i was hoping they could pull it off but they just got spanked but oh well maybe next time it was a good game though