yeesh childers I hope you find the deer and show us some pics and all, but atlas is on the button here.--- There are many people I would discourage from hunting--- because they wont follow BASIC ethics,they dont practice with thier bow from 70-80-90 yards ,so a 35 yard shot seems like a chip shot,they get to exited about shooting a deer(like your dad)and dont give it time,on and on.NOT EVERYONE SHOULD BE OUT THERE HUNTING imo only the ones who are skilled enough and are willing to follow a code of ethics and learn from the seasoned hunters and carry on the tradition.