Cayugad:You said you use ff out ofa Lyman all the time with out any problemsso that make me think i'm doing something wrong. As soon as I get out again I will try those tips you suggested about the patch and popping the cap as well as the others. When at the range I have poured 30 grains of fff down first, followed by 60 grains of the ff. It fired everytime. I'm a tightwad, but even that is to much word for me to do just to burn up the FF. Thanks