Mwether , Thanks for your input , You seem like a very inteligent person and are very well spoken .I wish I had your gifts in that respect ,my spelling and puncuation suck but I think I get my point across in spite of myself . I'm sure if we meet face to face we would be freinds . I've been hunting all weekend so have not hade a chance to respond . The first point I said "most not all" I'm glad you are one of the not all's . The second point I was not talking about asistance or programs for the poor ,I believe we need these and they need to be monitered closely for frood and lazy or dishonest pepole . I was speeking of the fact that goverment knows to much about us and what we do day in and day out ,cameras everywhere ,tracking devices , bar codes ,chips in our animals with serial numbers that they be putting in us eventualy . Am I parinoid ? No these things are happening and it scares me to think what the world is going to be like for my kids .This is suported by the big goverment types and I think those we label liberals suport that more than those we label conservitives , although W's dad scared the hell out of me we he coined that phraise " new world order " and I dont agree with nafta or gat ,I think they hurt our farmers ( pepole we have close relations to as hunters )but they are "subsidised" another big goverment thing .I see you particialy agree with me on points 3 and 4 . Im glad we can agree to disagree . I love the way Limbaugh and O'Riely think ,and some have mentioned Mr Nugent here . I think this guy is great . Hes out there crazy "gonzo" as he puts it but a great guy in my book .

This is getting very close to being off topic so this will be my last responce .

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Edited by - ijimmy on 12/09/2002 08:02:59