Now this has been a fun thread to read. I think that after 100 years of successful deer hunting the 30/30 is probably the most underrated rifle in the books. Geez, it was developed for deer (at least htat is what I have read) and has been around for more than 100 years, nuff said. So it only has an efficient range of 150 yards or so, big deal, most deer that are killed by a 30/30 are from 100 yards or less. I am not sure where all of the negetive stigma came from a 30/30 but most of it is just people down playing it to justify the $700+ expense of a new big bore rifle to thier wives. It is not an ideal rifle for big game like Elk or Moose, but at the right distance it will even do that too, just not as well as a more modern cartridge does. Oh, and did I mention that a 30/30 is only about half as expensive to shoot as a Magnum in about any caliber is? So therefore you can afford to practice a lot more and be an even better shot with your 30/30 which is really what counts when hunting.