Thanks. I hit a mulie in the shoulder once with a 145 HotCor from a hot loaded 280. Lord did ever do a job on the whole front half. That 280 had a 24 inch barrel and usually run only about 50 fps behind the Model 70 that I had in 7MM Mag when using the same bullet weights. That was a poor 7MM Mag. When I would get near the max loads for it, it would start dropping velocity fast. It just couldn't burn a full load of powder for some reason.