I have not tested one out yet but the makers of the bow run the shop I deal with. I can't say enough good things about these guys as well as their other creation such as the apa ultimate rest. I can't imagine why their new line of bows would be any different. I am actually happy i never shot one while i was in their shop this summer cause i probably would have broke down and bought one lol. They said they seem to be having alot of success with selling the bows and are burning the midnight oil keeping up to fill orders. Awesome guys and i don't have a problem driving 4 hours to deal with them.