RE: managed recoil ammo
Yes, I mentioned both brands in my original post above...
Yep, I own a box or two , and they work fine. The heaver bullet is great for those who need the extra uumph behind their shot, but here in South Ark. the deer average about 120 or so pounds. So a straw with a spit wad would just about do the trick down here. But the results were basically the same as with the remington. Just a hair more bullet drop.