3 years ago, when I used it to take a bear, elk, deer, moose, and caribou. Spencer, I get the impression, that you are maybe 16 years old. If you want to talk ballistics drop me a PM. PS, are you naive enough to believe that the 45-70 when handloaded with 350+ Gr. bullets won't take any game in NA? If you believe that, then there is no use in me even posting again, you proved you lack knowledge. Also, what calibers are you hunting with lately?