thanx alot guys...i know i will never forget that day...the doe makes my 3rd deer and the buck was my 4th and first buck..man what a 2 and a half hours! and huntinfool...ive seen many skulls with teeth on the top of the mouth...this doe had none on the top at all..my dad said age does that..he said he shot a buck once it only had one tooth left..and he told a retierd deer farmer we met while eating at kings after a bird hunt one morning and he agreed with my dad so i dont know....