When it came down which rifle was best for me I sorta figured it would come down to which rifle felt best to me for theright price.As far as my Remington goes I started put using 90 grains of Clean Shot Powder with Hornaday XTP pistol bullets with fair accuracy 4in group out to 75 yds. Lost a couple nice deer due to poor bullet expansionor so that's what I read might have been the problem. I switched over to a Barnes bullet with 90 grains of 777. Still got about the same type of accuracy but at least the Barnes did drop them in their tracks. Still shooting with no. 11 caps. Its topped with a 3x9 Tasco world class scope and leupold mounts. I can shoot 2 or 3in. groups out to 175 with a borrowed 270 so I don't think its my shooting but it might be. My son used it last week and it failed to fire because the bolt was dirty (Shame on me for not taking the bolt apartand cleaning it) If you can give me some advice on proper loads it might be worth keeping for myself but the new rifle I'm looking to buy is for my Son, so I'm trying to keep it real simple as far as loads. Just drop a Black belt on top of a couple of pellets. Stick in a 209 primer and go. Thanks for your help guys.