Thanxs guys, the mass really made that deer score well, suprisingly he is pretty small at the bases but his h2 and 3 is up in the 4-5 inch range and of course that split g2 helps the gross score. I seem to be seeing alot of the split g2 over the past few years. Last year both bucks i took had split g2 one was a 5 point with both 2's splitting makin him a 6er and another big 4 point with a splitter making him a 5x4. must be somethin in the water. lol[8D]