TC I want to make sure it is clear to all that we knew going in that we were subject to come home with no trophy ...and we also knew that we would not see near as many deer in Alberta as we might see in Sasketchewan but we did expect our outfitter to do something to try and make our hunt a successful one especially considering we were very good customers...all we wanted or expected him to do was to put in the same effort that we did...after all he had $9500 of our money...and we did not get that effortfrom him ...as for what we wore walking in ...the first morning it was 7 degrees and when we dressed that morning had no idea we would have to be walking in ...the next few days we did dress down until we reached the stand ...CI as for the statement " thats hunting" I have to disagree with you my friend ...when I hunt I try to leave the woods thinking I have done everything I could that day to harvest a buck ....we did not do everything that could have been done IMHO...we were not looking for excusses but adjustments from our outfitter....One on One thank you for your kind offer ...I have moved up to Paducah Ky and have not yet found a decent place to hunt but will continue to look ...Longrifle I felt like doing just what you suggested but thought better of it ...one ironic footnote that is humorus ...as me and my wife drove home from Nashville we saw 17 deer in less then 2 hours and she laughed everytime we saw one ...and to rub sale into the wound when I got up this morning and was making coffee I looked out back and there stood 3 LOL ..go figure !

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