Eagle, your the man, im not going to get into a pissing match, ive shot magnums and i turkey hunt and i wouldnt want to sit there and site in a rifle that kicks like a turkey gun and i dont see to many kids shooting 3 1/2 inch turkey loads at ducks. And ya i played football and wrestled from age 8 till graduation so i know a little about that. So eagle do your thing and ill do mine. you shoot your gun and ill keep getting the job done with my 270. And ya im going to defend it just like your defending (not using) it cause its to light. Everytime i see someone bashing it ill be right there throwing in my .02 cents.

Have a good day Eagle

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