well i got my first deer with a shotgun this morning. 6:47 to be exact. she came in at about 10 yards looked at me for a couple minutes then ran across the field, she stopped right at the treeline and i shot. came back an hour later and sure enough she was hit, had the biggest blood trail ive ever seen and only went 20 yards. right thru the heart. not sure on how much it weighs but its a big doe. sorry no pics yet