i want to say some nice things about muck boots. i got the woody max pair to go out to ohio with. they're rubber boots that are warm down below 0 degrees, they're waterproof, and they feel like you've got tennis shoes on. the only downside is they are made by an english company, and not an american one. i've got nothing against the english, but i like buying american. they also make the woody max's in a snake proof version called the woody max armor. these blow the doors off any rubber boots i've ever put on. i can't emphasize enough how easy they were to walk, hike, and climb in - and how warm they are.