rrviper I have to agree with you.. I was seeing all kinds of heavy pre rut sign the later part of bow and the opening weekend of BP.. I have hunted every day except for two since the bp opener and the rut activity has stopped it seems.. in fact yesterday you figure there would be decent movement prior to the fron coming through.. well we say 5 does all day long. Harvested on of those and none of them was showing any signs of being "in" I am hoping this cooler snap will put them back into gear by turkey day