Does that jog your memory perhaps?

Well, if it's hogwash and you don't need anywhere near 1500 ft/lbs to drop an elk then I guess a .243 at 400yards has over 1k ft/lbs so that should be ok for elk right? That's what I'm getting from what you said.

As hunters I don't think we should never reccomend to someone something like that. Just because something is possible doesn'tmean we should reccomend it.

So I suppose you're out with your .357 trying to bag an elk? Of course not don't be silly.

I feel it's much better to err on the side of caution. That is, if you're interested in providing as quick and clean a kill as possible, which I'm hoping you all are if you're hunters.