Well, jorkep,

There is no argument here. I simply stated what I know as fact from personal experience, and you did the same. If the ballistic tips work for you , then that is great. Keep using them. My stating what I know to be true was in no way meant to try to get you to change your mind or shoot something else. We are all just relating our own experiences. Just as you call my experiences " internet proof" , The same could be said of your experiences as they relate to me. That is the great thing about these forums. We can all relate our experiences to each other, and use what works for us. And , if I recall correctly, I did state that the winchester ballistic silver tip might be the exception to what I have seen. Soooooo I guess there was never a problem at all. "Internet proof" or not.

Good hunting and God bless