Bigtbird, I get what you are saying too. I do know this: we lease 500 acres in Jersey and ever since us and the other ajoining farms stopped using the brown its down mentality we shoot some really nice deer and the otherfridge hunters still take there meatdoes (before there pregnant of course) We pay the ajoining farm to leave some standing corn, we also have plots. I can honestly say I can't ever justify me ever paying for a trophy hunt out of state. I also eat venison all year round.For the person that just wants to fill a tag to say they got one on opening day, well I have no solution for that.In Jersey you can take as many does as you want. The buck limit depending on how many weapons you hunt is as high as 7. I think that that is just crazy.