I've personally witnessed non "HE" Winchester (moly) and Remington loads in several rifles that were less accurate or downright terrible. Where does that leave us?

There is a difference between "inaccurate" and "less accurate".

Inaccurate would mean "not suitable for hunting purposes" or bigger than what, 3 inches at 100 yards? "Less accurate" means less accurate than the person that isn't flinching from the increased recoil?

I'm pretty sure than any load that will shoot sub 1"@ 200 yards in my rifle will be plenty accurate in the average rifle for normal hunter purposes.

For the record I'm attempting to tell him what will shoot better in his rifle. What I'm saying is: in general, if you take into account all loads and all rifles, Hornady probably has a slight edge in quality and consistently. Did anyone say that a freakin' PMC or a handload won't be the best load for his rifle? No, no one is saying that so stop strawman-ing.

If one company was the best for everyone there wouldn't be handloaders or other ammo companies.