For shooting off a bench I like my Wichita front pedestal with Protektor sand bags front and rear. The Hoppes pedestal is too light in my opinion and tends to hop around on the bench. The Wichita and most other good pedestals will be pretty heavy and made out of case iron instead of aluminum. If I didn't already own the Wichita, I'd probably buya Caldwell as it has more features and doesn't cost nearly as much as some others like the Sinclair for example.