I've been here in vermont for 8 yrs now and have taken a few nice 8ptrs.....but it's awfully frustrating to pass up young 4ptrs only to see them get shot anyway. It's been a long time coming and we've already seen better deer taken through archery season.

Combined with the mild winter last year and hopefully more awareness from other hunters these younger deer may become a few years older.

We're definately not hurting on our numbers...maybe more doe permits would help with the ratio's......i guess that's why we have the biologists