Where I hunt in Alberta and Saskatchewan,we call any buck a 4x4,5x4, 6x6 etc.and give a roughB&C score.If someone calls a 4x4 an 8 point,we know right away that he isn't from around here.And unless it is a first deer,or he is a young hunter,if he gets excited about any deer scoring less than 140 B&C,he is definitely not from around here.