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11-07-2006 | 11:19 PM

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iamyourhuckleberry

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Joined: Mar 2006

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From: Erie, Colorado

RE: how is this "hunting"

"NO valid conservation reason to have indigenous North American Game behind a fence. period".

I'll give you one:

"if it's brown, it's down".

I've seen that concept in action back east on numerous occassions.

here's another:

"if it flies, it dies". I know...totally unrelated.

Argue your point with our American Bison, and the less than 1% that spared them.

http://www.yptenc.org.uk/docs/factsheets/animal_facts/american_bison.html

Hold on a second, bison are not big game animals. they're just docile penned raised pets.

Argue your point with our Jagaurs.

http://www.kindwoman.com/jaguar1.html

Argue your point with Florida's panthers.

http://www.kidsplanet.org/factsheets/florida_panther.html

Argue your point with Tules elk.

http://www.oaklandzoo.org/atoz/aztlelk.html

ALL of these animals were hunted to near extinction. They are slowly rebounding. A lot of their recoverycan be attributed to private land owners with high fences. Thank you Landowners (whatever percentage)! Would you like me to provide more links?

How about the true eastern US andCanada elk. Oh wait, they're gone, no point in arguing there! Seems they were wiped out as humans continued to expand. Call me stupid or something, but the last time I checked we humans just hit 6 billion and are growing. Dude if I had the money, I'd be buying up land and animals as quickly as possible. If you love hunting and conservation as much as I do, you would be doing the same!

I certainly know a few folks in Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming that would argue with you when the conversation turns towards wolves (an indigenousbig game animal). Yep, they want fence -not to keep the wolves in. They want it to keep the wolves out! Which side of the fence is "behind"?

"Maintenance Problems"

Yes, but not always. I'veseenwerebisonhave powered through fence (this was actually how Iwas able to getmy bull bison. I shot him after he and a cohort pushed their way onto a neighboring property the day before I arrived. They did so with zero pressure from anyone. No, he did not have a tag in his ear. Yes, he was as wild and unpredictable as anything I've ever hunted. A rancher tried to use his F-350 to move the animals back where they came from. In the end, it looked like the F350- had been wrapped around a telephone pole).I've watchedelk with their pure athletic ability go under and over fences. I even seen them enlargeholes started by who knows what ( maybe bulls wanting to get in to avoid the pressure on the outside).

In African ( I know Hillbilly, you only care about America), I watched in disbelief as three eland bulls cleared a six foot fence with very little effort. Other animals move through/over the fence like it wasn't even there (e.g. Leopards. steenbok. duikers, warthogs. cheetahs, gemsbok,impala...). I know because I've seen it! There was absolutely nothing wrong with the fence. Again Hillybilly, you are making assumptions ( I still think you're an ok guy, we just see things differently). You should get out more.

Yeah, hunting is a religion...tolerance!

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