No Arthur, not suggesting to climb trees etc... My long winded story really didn't help describe my problem. I am basically hunting just inside a field edge which goes down hill into to woods and intermingled flood plane. I believe the area I have chosen is a dead end corner and the deer have to travel off their normal track to feed at my bait pile. While I have had a few deer come in, I have to assume there are several other deer that aren't. My hope prior to picking up everything and moving, was to do a few sits on the ground. To put the odds in my favor, I was hoping someone could suggest a method of using scent, horns, doe bleet, or grunt. I don't know what else to do, so hunting the ground is my only option for now. Actually gonna be leaving here in less then an hour, so any other tips would be great. Thanks for the reply.