Tealboy, as Knobby stated, the rules of the club may apply here, what does the ARTICLE state that your friend was suppose to have read to you say? This is why clubs have rules. The articles of the club will apply. He is equally to share in the blame. Don't be so hard on yourself, the other day I was watching a spike around my stand and after about 10 minutes it had looked directly straight in my direction and it was actually a 3x3 that I estimated to be a 1 1/2 year old yearly buck(good future trophy stock). They say the first to go is the ole eyes, <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Later, and good luck, I think maybe you learned a very valuable lesson and that is, before you pull that trigger, you better damn well idenify your target correctly, Bobby <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>