Dagger - I should have listened to your safe hunting comment - took about a 13 foot fall outta the tree on my way down last nite. Wasnt being stupid, was being real careful - but a branch that I was holding on to while grabbing for the next step broke at the wrong possible time and down I went. Got a gash on the side o fmy head and a real real sore back to show for it, but I had let my bow down before I left the stand and luckily it was on the other side of the tree. Just goes to show that no matter how careful you are, accidents happen. Everybody stay safe and be careful. I'm sidelined from hunting for a couple days now because of this and dont want anybody else having to do the same.