Thanks for the replies, my feelings as well. It is my partner who is looking. He'll only buy the browning abolt, sono way the 325 with 23" will compare to the 338wm 26". Though he could really care less! He isWSMized(yes my word)by the advertising I believe thinking he'll actually get more with less in 325 chamber. I haven't even checked the availabilty of 8mm bullets in the area, I do know the factory stuff they have Winchester/Olin stocked here. Maybe that is a way to show him the light!

EKM he uses a 280 rem right now. I have been loading 160gr Failsafes for elk and moose which have worked great for him. We are going to try the 150 TSX next year. He thinks 140 is to low, even though he has watched meharvest 2 elk and bull moose in the past 2 years using 140TSX/.284 flung from my 7mm rem mag. He'll keep the .280 for deer and eventually his boy will see it.