"and anyone who wants to talk about the 30-30 being a better rifle than a magnum can send a PM my way. "

Lol. i own a 30-30 and i used to use it when i was in my teens for elk/ deer hunting. I never killed an animal with it. Everytime i go Rifle hunting anymore i just take my .50 muzzleloader. It puts game down fast and i know where im at at 150 yards and dont have to worry about dropping the scoped 30-30and knocking it of target. Its funny to see rifle hunters blasting off 7-8 shots and go back to camp with no animal and i take a deer home with a muzzleloader during rifle season. There are more rifle hunters out there that think they are snipers and can hit anything from 400 yards away. I once went hunting with some friends, the guys carrying a 243 and he "shoots" a deer 400 yards away and is all pumped up about it sayin Yeah man i got it! Didnt you here the "whop"?!! That poor sucker spent that evening and the entire next day looking for it untill he finally shook his head in shame and said" i guess i missed" Not knocking rifle hunters at all, just a story that came to my mind. im random like that lol. Hopefully i'll be selling my 30-30 for a payment on a new Ruger .280