I have used those Rem.120's hp and took 7 or 8 Bucks with them from that one box. I gave the rest to the man who bought the rifle last year. Try to keep yer shots into the lung area, i have had pass thru's. Chest on shots generally didn't get pass thru's, unless quartering. I never lost a deer using them, but i never shot one over 200 yds. either. If i was shooting big bodied deer at longer ranges i would step up to the 140gr. bullets. Recoil isn't much difference between the 2, you can always load it at starting loads. I don't think anything will just up and walk away from a solid hit.