I feel your pain Roger! I want the Excite or phoenix also but my supermax is a nock buster and I just upgraded to it last year! I am really going to work it over for Christmas! I think it just sealed the deal today when I picked it up and it was light! Now I just have to wait and shoot it and either buy or hunt down the two D's with my Horton!! LOL!

Edit: Forgot to talk about the width. When I held it up to the supermax it was not all that bad. Uncocked maybe six or seven inches and when cocked only three if I remember that old post where we talked about it. I came to realize when I am twenty five feet in the tree there is nothing beside me so why should the width matter. If in a small blind of brushy tree maybe but its not bad Roger. Go to a shop and look at one, but be careful!!!