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Those work great. I'm not the type that gets cold but can add a few things. I never hunt with gloves and don't need to. I put a few hand warmers in my pockets and hold them when I need to inside my pocket. I also wear some well insulated gortex bib overalls. My upper body is secondary and I always keep everything inside the bibs. I also wear an insulated gortex shirt as my last layer. Also, I abandon my rubber boots in very cold weather and get my scent absorbant insulated boots out. I don't like pak boots either. One bit of advice to remember is DON&quot;T WEAR COTTON at all.

This will keep me good into the single digits. Wind chill doesn't matter too much when you wear gortex. It doesn't get any colder then that where I am from. Hope that helps.