I have a permanent stand on my buddy's farm thatwas built years ago. I keep it in good repair and it has a nice sized platform (about 3'x5') with a low rail and camo draped around it. The "seat" is a piece of 2x10 that is in the crotched limb of the tree so that I can lean back against (and betwwen) the limbs. I can stay in this stand all day, and usually do during those few "critical" days in November. I don't think I could do it in a climber though!