Like I said Buellhunter and in the pm I sent you earlier today Congrats!!! Rob, I am glad you and others love your Enigma and I am sure it works great for you and others but so does predator, asat, ghillies, and many others. It seems like the guys that are more pumped for this stuff are the guys who are also dealers for enigma. Just an observation. I just don't think that there is a"magic camo out there. I do know that to draw on a turkey in a treestand is very hard to do and predator allowed me to do it. I guess we will have to see if Double Bulll blinds are going to do away with predator and go with enigma; that will convince me more.HCH